In this second conversation with JJ Vega, leadership coach and founder of Art of Unfolding, Dave Schoof goes deeper into the territory most leadership development avoids: grief as a necessary passage, natural cycles as an organizational practice, and the embodied awareness that makes a genuinely different kind of leadership possible. Drawing on William Bridges' transition model and their shared background in somatic and consciousness-informed coaching, Dave and JJ explore what it actually takes to lead well through endings — not just survive them.
In this episode:
• Grief as a leadership skill — why it belongs in the room
• The neutral zone: what lives between endings and new beginnings
• Resilience vs. permeability — replacing the wall with a membrane
• Regenerative leadership: honoring fallow seasons, natural cycles, and rest
• Embodied awareness as the foundational leadership practice
• Rewilding the human being — and the organizations we lead
Guest: JJ Vega is a leadership coach working at the intersection of the inner world and organizational impact. Together, we cover emergence as a leadership practice, somatic intelligence, edge walkers, the disintegrating success template, and whether the Hero's Journey needs a postmodern update.
CONNECT WITH JJ VEGA
Website: artofunfolding.org
Inside Out Leadership: leadinsideout.io (https://leadinsideout.io)
Co-Creation Loft Berlin: co-creation.loft (https://co-creation.loft)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jj-vega/
🔗 CONNECT WITH DAVE
Website: daveschoof.com
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Substack: [https://dschoof.substack.com]
Podcast: [https://thepivotpodcast.net/?v=zm7s]
LinkedIn: [https://www.linkedin.com/in/daveschoof/ ]